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T O P I C R E V I E WFireMoonI realize it goes both ways, but if you had to simplify it... Who is more obsessed, Venus or Pluto??In your experience of courseCeridwenPlutoFireMoon quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:PlutoOkay, I can work with that *says crazy Aqua Venus in 8th house* lol, should've known I should be going for older guys all alongCeridwenWell, VEnus in 8th house changes it, of course. FireMoonUghh how so??? There's suuuuuper strong chemistry but we basically just met... don't even know his exact birthday just the yearPathetic I know, but I have a good feeling about this. Which I usually never doCeridwenHonestly?Venus-Pluto would not be the first thing I`d check. Too generational on its own, though under certain circumstances it can get very strong.But it doesn`t make people fall in love; you will need to have more individual aspects for that. filleaspirantI have an 8th House Leo Venus. Every guy I've wanted that put his Pluto in a square to it were more obssessed with me than me with them - but that didn't nullify my own obssession. While I was obssessed with their feelings (if they liked me, how they saw me, if they were only fooling around, etc), their obssession were with my actions (who I talked to, what I was doing, why I didn't do whatever, etc).I know Venus-Pluto connection is hot, but it's too tiresome and intense for all parties involved. I'm a Virgo Sun, so I don't dig the kind of drama my Leo Venus attracts.starmoonit depends on the house placements. normally i'd say pluto, but i was just recently a venus conj. pluto and was obsessed with him becuz my venus touched his ASC/pluto conjunction in the 1st. and i have a pluto-mars-sun conjunction. i think it's who has the natal placements to activate the obsession more :-)peachbeigeblueV/P especially the DW is so tiring FireMoon quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:Honestly?Venus-Pluto would not be the first thing I`d check. Too generational on its own, though under certain circumstances it can get very strong.But it doesn`t make people fall in love; you will need to have more individual aspects for that. Yeah I asked when his birthday is and explained I'm into astrology... and his response was that he's "barely a Libra". lol so I don't know the exact day or time but going off of that I know his Sun and Venus are trine my Venus and sextile my Moon, and we have Sun trine Mars DW. There are other nice aspects but my Venus squares his Pluto exact so that just stood out to me I guess...Anyway this conversation happened over texting so I didn't want to seem weird asking him too many questions about his birthday lol but we're going on a date this week so I will try to find out the actual day/time since obviously knowing the moon sign and houses and all that can make a big difference quote:Originally posted by filleaspirant:I have an 8th House Leo Venus. Every guy I've wanted that put his Pluto in a square to it were more obssessed with me than me with them - but that didn't nullify my own obssession. While I was obssessed with their feelings (if they liked me, how they saw me, if they were only fooling around, etc), their obssession were with my actions (who I talked to, what I was doing, why I didn't do whatever, etc).I know Venus-Pluto connection is hot, but it's too tiresome and intense for all parties involved. I'm a Virgo Sun, so I don't dig the kind of drama my Leo Venus attracts.Very interesting about being obsessed with someone's feelings vs. actions! I agree the Pluto/8th house intensity can be a little too overwhelming for me as well. But I have Pluto in my 5th house so I suppose it's something I should just learn to accept lol Venusian MoonOver rated. Venus-pluto can transform you or break your soul.------------------Gemini sun 12th.(Gemini/cancer cusp)Cancer asc 1stTaurus moon 11thTaurus venus 11thLibra mars 3rdGemini mercury 11thpage one quote:Originally posted by Venusian Moon:Over rated. Venus-pluto can transform you or break your soul.If it makes or breaks you, how can you call it overrated?NeptunianSagToo annoying, especially for a venus in aqua, just lead to arguments it felt like he was invading my privacy and personal space.vickymadness quote:Originally posted by FireMoon:Ughh how so??? There's suuuuuper strong chemistry but we basically just met... don't even know his exact birthday just the yearPathetic I know, but I have a good feeling about this. Which I usually never doa super chemistry in a "just met" situation makes me think uranus with venus/mars or mars with venus/sun or vertex opposite/conjunct sunIndigoDiraeWhen you want a birth time, just say, 'oh, I'd love to wish you a happy birthday, but I'm big on it being EXACT. Not a minute before.'Oddly enough, this works. Milkyshutter quote:Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:V/P especially the DW is so tiring Is this coming from your own experience?MilkyshutterIexperienced Venus-Pluto DW recently. Well, there are other aspects but I have to say V/P DW was the central theme. Sexual tension is over the roof,at least from my part, but it should've been mutual. It's good for romance, but V/P doesn't really promise stability. Have to look for other signs for that. But, overall, it was magical and life-changing for me. Venusian Moon quote:Originally posted by page one: If it makes or breaks you, how can you call it overrated?Its over rated because people tend to see it as a soulmate aspect or think its enough to bind people for life. Its not.somethingexcellentPluto is one of Venus' natural pairs, the other being Mars, so it's pretty strong in synastry!But like any synastry, it depends on what your natal chart is like! If you have strong Venus or Pluto energy, it'll be more attractive and enjoyable to you than if, say, you were Mercurial or Jovian, etc.Generally, the Pluto is the obsessive one, but it definitely does go both ways and can change depending on other factors!!lisalisa quote:Originally posted by somethingexcellent:Pluto is one of Venus' natural pairs, the other being Mars, so it's pretty strong in synastry!But like any synastry, it depends on what your natal chart is like! If you have strong Venus or Pluto energy, it'll be more attractive and enjoyable to you than if, say, you were Mercurial or Jovian, etc.Generally, the Pluto is the obsessive one, but it definitely does go both ways and can change depending on other factors!!I have my pluto opposing this guy's venus and he has this aspect natally tooMy pluto is conjunct my asc and venusWhat will this say about us? Oh and his lilith is conjunct my venusMy pluto also opposes his mars and he has this natally tooHis pluto squares my marsFireMoon quote:Originally posted by vickymadness: a super chemistry in a "just met" situation makes me think uranus with venus/mars or mars with venus/sun or vertex opposite/conjunct sunWe don't have venus/mars aspects but my venus trines his venus/sun, and his venus squares my uranus by 1 degree... Sooooo I wonder how that would play out with both uranus and pluto squares to venus?? In our natals my pluto is much more aspected than his, and his uranus is more aspected than mine isAnyway, we also have some nice mars aspects (mars widely trine mars, his mars trine my sun/saturn/NN and sextile my pluto, my mars trine his sun...) It's started out with strong attraction but I think we both feel the intensity and are hesitant to really go for it I guessFireMoon quote:Originally posted by IndigoDirae:When you want a birth time, just say, 'oh, I'd love to wish you a happy birthday, but I'm big on it being EXACT. Not a minute before.'Oddly enough, this works. Lol thanks for your response that's a good technique, I'll definitely have to try it next time!
In your experience of course
quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:Pluto
Okay, I can work with that
*says crazy Aqua Venus in 8th house* lol, should've known I should be going for older guys all along
Pathetic I know, but I have a good feeling about this. Which I usually never do
Venus-Pluto would not be the first thing I`d check. Too generational on its own, though under certain circumstances it can get very strong.
But it doesn`t make people fall in love; you will need to have more individual aspects for that.
I know Venus-Pluto connection is hot, but it's too tiresome and intense for all parties involved. I'm a Virgo Sun, so I don't dig the kind of drama my Leo Venus attracts.
quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:Honestly?Venus-Pluto would not be the first thing I`d check. Too generational on its own, though under certain circumstances it can get very strong.But it doesn`t make people fall in love; you will need to have more individual aspects for that.
Yeah I asked when his birthday is and explained I'm into astrology... and his response was that he's "barely a Libra". lol so I don't know the exact day or time but going off of that I know his Sun and Venus are trine my Venus and sextile my Moon, and we have Sun trine Mars DW. There are other nice aspects but my Venus squares his Pluto exact so that just stood out to me I guess...
Anyway this conversation happened over texting so I didn't want to seem weird asking him too many questions about his birthday lol but we're going on a date this week so I will try to find out the actual day/time since obviously knowing the moon sign and houses and all that can make a big difference
quote:Originally posted by filleaspirant:I have an 8th House Leo Venus. Every guy I've wanted that put his Pluto in a square to it were more obssessed with me than me with them - but that didn't nullify my own obssession. While I was obssessed with their feelings (if they liked me, how they saw me, if they were only fooling around, etc), their obssession were with my actions (who I talked to, what I was doing, why I didn't do whatever, etc).I know Venus-Pluto connection is hot, but it's too tiresome and intense for all parties involved. I'm a Virgo Sun, so I don't dig the kind of drama my Leo Venus attracts.
Very interesting about being obsessed with someone's feelings vs. actions! I agree the Pluto/8th house intensity can be a little too overwhelming for me as well. But I have Pluto in my 5th house so I suppose it's something I should just learn to accept lol
------------------Gemini sun 12th.(Gemini/cancer cusp)Cancer asc 1stTaurus moon 11thTaurus venus 11thLibra mars 3rdGemini mercury 11th
quote:Originally posted by Venusian Moon:Over rated. Venus-pluto can transform you or break your soul.
If it makes or breaks you, how can you call it overrated?
quote:Originally posted by FireMoon:Ughh how so??? There's suuuuuper strong chemistry but we basically just met... don't even know his exact birthday just the yearPathetic I know, but I have a good feeling about this. Which I usually never do
a super chemistry in a "just met" situation makes me think uranus with venus/mars or mars with venus/sun or vertex opposite/conjunct sun
Oddly enough, this works.
quote:Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:V/P especially the DW is so tiring
Is this coming from your own experience?
It's good for romance, but V/P doesn't really promise stability. Have to look for other signs for that. But, overall, it was magical and life-changing for me.
quote:Originally posted by page one: If it makes or breaks you, how can you call it overrated?
Its over rated because people tend to see it as a soulmate aspect or think its enough to bind people for life. Its not.
But like any synastry, it depends on what your natal chart is like! If you have strong Venus or Pluto energy, it'll be more attractive and enjoyable to you than if, say, you were Mercurial or Jovian, etc.
Generally, the Pluto is the obsessive one, but it definitely does go both ways and can change depending on other factors!!
quote:Originally posted by somethingexcellent:Pluto is one of Venus' natural pairs, the other being Mars, so it's pretty strong in synastry!But like any synastry, it depends on what your natal chart is like! If you have strong Venus or Pluto energy, it'll be more attractive and enjoyable to you than if, say, you were Mercurial or Jovian, etc.Generally, the Pluto is the obsessive one, but it definitely does go both ways and can change depending on other factors!!
I have my pluto opposing this guy's venus and he has this aspect natally too
My pluto is conjunct my asc and venus
What will this say about us? Oh and his lilith is conjunct my venus
My pluto also opposes his mars and he has this natally too
His pluto squares my mars
quote:Originally posted by vickymadness: a super chemistry in a "just met" situation makes me think uranus with venus/mars or mars with venus/sun or vertex opposite/conjunct sun
We don't have venus/mars aspects but my venus trines his venus/sun, and his venus squares my uranus by 1 degree... Sooooo I wonder how that would play out with both uranus and pluto squares to venus?? In our natals my pluto is much more aspected than his, and his uranus is more aspected than mine is
Anyway, we also have some nice mars aspects (mars widely trine mars, his mars trine my sun/saturn/NN and sextile my pluto, my mars trine his sun...) It's started out with strong attraction but I think we both feel the intensity and are hesitant to really go for it I guess
quote:Originally posted by IndigoDirae:When you want a birth time, just say, 'oh, I'd love to wish you a happy birthday, but I'm big on it being EXACT. Not a minute before.'Oddly enough, this works.
Lol thanks for your response that's a good technique, I'll definitely have to try it next time!
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